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  1. anon_de_plume

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    You are fucking delusional. That is not what it says!
     
    1. Josef.K.
      Then, what did it 'say'?
       
      Josef.K., Feb 13, 2020
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      Look down further...
       
      anon_de_plume, Feb 13, 2020
  2. thinskin

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    Surreal how this thread has gone from information to disinformation to religous doctrine to outright hysteria!

    It is a porn forum.....I wonder how the fanatical religous right view the pornography that we all apparently enjoy?:rolleyes:

    Thinskin
     
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    1. submissively speaking
      It’s an emotional subject, which I understand. I love babies, and potential babies. But I love a woman’s right to full control over her body more.
       
  3. thinskin

    thinskin Porn Star Banned!

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    For someone who has carried two sons to term as you stated in another post you seem to be very poorly informed.....the picture you refer to is a con!

    At 12 weeks the fetus is just two inches long!

    Try researching facts so you can make fact based decisions!

    Thinskin
     
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    1. Lioness
      Did you even research the book or the author? No....because you think you know everything.

      Lennart Nilsson has been called a genius, a legend, and a pioneer. A 21st century Renaissance Man. A groundbreaking scientist and explorer. He has been compared to Carl Linnaeus and Leonardo da Vinci. And he is regarded as one of the most influential photographers in the history of the medium. He himself has a more modest opinion. “I’m just a photographer who happened to become fascinated with mankind.”

      Lennart Nilsson is a photographer who thinks like a journalist. An educator with a camera, who sees as his greatest challenge to explain the inexplicable and to make the invisible visible. Spreading knowledge to the people, by portraying everyday life in a way that helps others to see. He knows how to gain people’s confidence, and how to get close to them.
       
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      A Child is Born follows the everyday life of an expecting couple, and lets us see how the foetus develops over the nine-months of pregnancy. All illustrated with Lennart Nilsson’s unique pictures.

      The first edition was published in October 1965 by Albert Bonniers förlag in Stockholm, and written by Axel Ingelman-Sundberg and Claes Wirsén. Today, A Child is Born is one of the world’s bestselling photo books and has influenced millions of people’s attitudes to life and childbirth.
       
      Lioness, Feb 13, 2020
    3. thinskin
      Nevertheless the cover photo on which you made such a bold point is a fake and is not a 12 week old fetus. If the cover is a fake then I have no interest in what lies within!

      You are so eager for anything that supports your warped view that any view otherwise is wasted and I have better things to do!

      ts
       
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    4. Lioness
      Whatever! It's still a HUMAN BABY that you constantly deny...from it's conception to it's birth, it's not going to be anything else!!!
       
      Lioness, Feb 13, 2020
    5. thinskin
      Then why did you say it was a 12 week old fetus? You are either a liar or a fool!

      ts
       
      thinskin, Feb 14, 2020
  4. Couple4biguy101

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    That's true, it only uses "year of our lord" but that was a statement used as solidarity and to point to the birth of Christ in its relevance to the date at the time of writing official papers. Another thing that shows western culture was built on the judeo/Christian value structure. Remember they believed that all these rights came from God, not man.
     
    1. Sanity_is_Relative
      No it points to an English translation of a Latin phrase. The US was designed as a secular nation.
       
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    Also, the whole independence war wasn't just a war of financial independence and inclusion, it was also a war of religious independence.
     
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    lol hypocrisy is not an admission of being wrong... on the contrary, when one is called a hypocrite that usually means that the actions deemed wrong are also being performed by the aforementioned hypocrite lol. So, being called a hypocrite is tantamount to being called right with the baggage of also doing the same wrong behavior. #nottrolling
     
  7. Couple4biguy101

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    Ok yall, this has been a tentalating conversation, but cooler heads must prevail... who's got titty pics?
     
  8. thinskin

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    Try as I might I cannot see the word hypocrite in my post perhaps ironic might be more polite but if you want to put 2 and 2 together and make 5 then you are welcome!

    Thinskin
     
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  9. Couple4biguy101

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    You're absolutely correct, you did not use the word hypocrite, however you did allude to hypocrisy by asking how the religious would view our porn watching while speaking of God at the same time. You asked how they would view it, and the answer is that they would view it as hypocrisy. Maybe I skipped a few steps in the above post, apologies for that, I should have been more clear in my response.
     
    1. thinskin
      Your answer perhaps but not mine.....I was merely pointing out an inconsistency.

      In any case apology accepted.

      Thinskin
       
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  10. Distant Lover

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    Then what does it say, big guy?

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    Cornell Law School: Legal Information Institute
    143 U.S. 457 (12 S.Ct. 511, 36 L.Ed. 226)
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    RECTOR, ETC., OF HOLY TRINITY CHURCH v. UNITED STATES.
    Decided: February 29, 1892
    Mr. Justice BREWER delivered the opinion of the court.

    we are a Christian people, and the morality of the country is deeply ingrafted upon Christianity...

    If we pass beyond these matters to a view of American life, as expressed by its laws, its business, its customs, and its society, we find every where a clear recognition of the same truth. Among other matters note the following: The form of oath universally prevailing, concluding with an appeal to the Almighty; the custom of opening sessions of all deliberative bodies and most conventions with prayer; the prefatory words of all wills, 'In the name of God, amen;' the laws respecting the observance of the Sabbath, with the general cessation of all secular business, and the closing of courts, legislatures, and other similar public assemblies on that day; the churches and church organizations which abound in every city, town, and hamlet; the multitude of charitable organizations existing every where under Christian auspices; the gigantic missionary associations, with general support, and aiming to establish Christian missions in every quarter of the globe. These, and many other matters which might be noticed, add a volume of unofficial declarations to the mass of organic utterances that this is a Christian nation.

    https://www.law.cornell.edu/supremecourt/text/143/457
     
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    1. Sanity_is_Relative
      It does not say that at all doggie. Article 11 of that treaty openly says that the US IS NOT A CHRISTIAN NATION.

      ARTICLE 11.
      As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion,-as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen,-and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.

      Do I need to make that more clear? NOT IN ANY SENSE FOUNDED ON THE CHRISTIAN RELIGION.
       
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  11. Distant Lover

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    I think the real hypocrisy is between those who claim to be pro life, and who are nevertheless opposed to universal health care. Universal health care for low income females would reduce the number of pregnant females who die in childbirth. It would also reduce child mortality. Those who oppose legal abortion have other concerns than human life. They want to penalize sex outside of marriage with unwanted pregnancies.
     
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  12. anon_de_plume

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    That is not the treaty of Tripoli!
     
  13. anon_de_plume

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    I've never heard anyone ever say this. Care to show proof?
     
  14. anon_de_plume

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    @Distant Lover, this is the passage I'm referring to... It's almost a hundred years before your claim, and it was unanimously ratified by the U.S. Congress and signed by John Adams in 1797.

    https://avalon.law.yale.edu/18th_century/bar1796t.asp

    ARTICLE 11.
    As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion,-as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen,-and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.
     
  15. Distant Lover

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    I never said it was.
     
  16. ace's n 8's

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    Very..very true.

    Religious independence was the true makings of Rule of Law..not rule of man
     
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      Independent of whom or what?
       
      Josef.K., Feb 13, 2020
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      The Kings sanctioned Religion.
       
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  17. Distant Lover

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    According to HOLY TRINITY CHURCH v. UNITED STATES, "this is a Christian nation."

    So who's right? Well, as I pointed out earlier, that depends on how one interprets "Christian nation," what one looks for as evidence, and what one wants to believe.

    I like the idea of the United States as a Christian nation, so on this issue I will go with the Supreme Court. I want a Christian presence in the public sphere. I like public prayers, manger scenes on the county court house, and things like that. If Jews want to put up a menorah during Hanukkah, that's fine with me too. I want this stuff to be handled by voters in a locality.
     
    1. Sanity_is_Relative
      As the government of the United States of America is not in any sense founded on the Christian Religion,-as it has in itself no character of enmity against the laws, religion or tranquility of Musselmen,-and as the said States never have entered into any war or act of hostility against any Mehomitan nation, it is declared by the parties that no pretext arising from religious opinions shall ever produce an interruption of the harmony existing between the two countries.
       
      Sanity_is_Relative, Feb 13, 2020
  18. ace's n 8's

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    There is no centralized religion or governemnt endorsed religion in the U.S..

    Even many of the Founders were not Christian...in nature and values only, is the U.S. a christian Nation.

    Four people can throw a handful of monkey shit at the wall and all 4 will interpret it differently...you need to gander at what was intended by the framers.
     
  19. Distant Lover

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    Pew Research Center, ULY 21, 2007

    Two in three Americans (67%) say they consider the United States to be a Christian nation — down just slightly from 71% in March 2006 but up significantly from the percentage who said so a decade ago. In 1996, 60% of Americans tied the nation’s identity to Christianity; by 2002, the figure had climbed to 67%, and since then views on this question have remained fairly consistent. Seculars are the only religious classification among whom fewer than a majority see the U.S. as a Christian country, although even among seculars nearly half (48%) view the U.S. this way.
     
  20. ace's n 8's

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    We can always depend on studies and the like to be done in a manner in which they ask those that do not know.